I saw this interview. It made me sick the way Tim put words in Dr. Paul’s mouth, twisted what he said and spun the whole story. Good thing Dr. Paul’s supporters know better than to listen to mainstream media. Unfortunately, it is could screw up the views of those just learning of Ron Paul. Too many people listen to and follow what those talking heads in the media espouse. They are used to just being part of the status quo, and not finding their own niche. I still have hope that the majority will wake up, and find out what they are missing in the Revolution.

Ron Paul 2008

That’s one of the major things that major-ly bothers me about and makes me and many others in the Truth Movement distrust Ron Paul. Oh, I know there are supposedly good excuses and/or reasons for it, but I don’t agree that they are good reasons and/or excuses AT ALL! He downplays the seriousness of the threat of the fascism that we ARE under, which is extremely dangerous in and of itself. Because the threat that we are under right this very moment IS VERY MUCH Nazi-Germany-like fascism, and/or is “Hitler-like fascism” as Dr. Paul puts it and denies that it is! I realize he’s trying not to sound extreme, or “so” extreme, and to attempt to make himself more palatable to the “mainstream”; but there’s no excuse for this! We’ve GOT TO give the warning(s) in no uncertain terms, whether running for president or whatever, period! And I for one will not excuse Ron Paul’s completely inexcusable, typical-career-politician-like “waffling”! He doesn’t stand a hope in hell of winning anyway; so, rhetorically speaking, what can it hurt to tell it like it is in no uncertain terms, as we ALL, including Ron-Paul-types running for president, have a natural, God-given, world-citizen, True American Patriot (if we are True American Patriots) DUTY to do?! Enough waffling, ALTOGETHER, about the truth of what is really going on, it is THAT serious and important!!

When in hell are they going to quit the whitewashing of the current status quo that is now American. Mr. Paul, we are not headed towards Fascism, but, are already a “Fascist State”! ! ! that is hidden from most Amerians who are gluded to their TV sets or don’t have the intellect to do their research etc.

Come walk in my shoes or any whistle blower who believes in the U.S. Constitution or who is anti Mush or world government.

Please don’t insult us with this rhetoric, grab your balls and tell it like it is! The line has already been drawn…..please step to one side or the other.

Leadership is not being soft on hard facts concerning the future of our country and the world.

Please don’t forget the threats against your life!!!, which, derive from the so called “Soft Fascism”.

Very Truly Yours

/s/Donald F. Truax

There is indeed a fine line between going all out yet trying not to be seen as extreme. Unfortunately, most people are misinformed and the Truth Movement is unknown and a little scary to them. Mainstream people need to introduced slowly. I have some friends who were very angry that I even brought up the 911 Truth Movement! I guess they don’t care about their future, the future of their children, much less the future of our country. It is very sad.

I recently saw Larry Silverstein at an art convention (the owner of WTC complex who received $7 BIL in insurance from his $15 investment). I wanted to yell out to him, but I did not, and regretted it after. As my ex said, “He’ll bury you - keep your mouth shut.” Isn’t that the truth about all of this?? They will bury us - figuratively and literally.

Rachel and Don, I totally agree with you!!

RON PAUL 2008

Ron Paul will need to become more aggressive with time imo

Maybe even make a scene at some point if people are dismissing him

He was right where he said, about his massive contributions,

“it shows there are alot of disgruntled people out there”

There are alot of disgruntled people alright and more to come,, doesn’t hurt to wait a bit maybe

The younger generation and I mean even in their forties even have been excluded from the benefits of their labor

It started about 1978 when they raised interest rates to 13% for 13 years!
and opened the borders as they exported our jobs with OUR (govt) money

I think when people aren’t sure who the enemy is that it causes uncertainty

They just need somebody to point them in the right direction and then for the proverbial first shot to be fired

I’m a little old to be sayin this but,

Man Alex, You ROCK!

Thanks

I agree Donald F. Truax, we are and have been subjugated by Fascism since at least 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created.

However, I understand why Ron Paul didn’t want to dredge-up that issue with the shill Russert trying to bitch slap Dr. Paul at every turn and he would have sounded too radical to the sheeple if he would have stated it any harsher.

Regardless, of how these media whores try to dis-credit Dr. Paul he always seems to recover rather well concidering.

I used to think that Tim Russert was a good journalist - not afraid to ask the tough questions, but lately he has been soft on the those in power and tough on the less politically influential.

I saw no courtesy shown Ron Paul in his interview but rather a non-stop barrage of accusations which fortunately Mr. Paul was able to deflect. If anyone was the winner is was Ron Paul and we now have a true picture of Tim Russert, the attack dog of the ultraconservatives.

Oops, I didn’t realize, or remember, that there’s another “Don” in this thread (or is that you, Donald?); so I mean, “Amen, Don(ald F. Traux)”, that is!… Not that what “Don” said didn’t have some value to it too.

Oh, don’t worry, I’m still voting for Ron Paul, why ? It’s simple, we all know the elite are sponsoring the rest of the goons for office…..you’ll never here the truth out of them either. Everything from Fascism to Eugenics are on the wicked tables of this presidential campaign, and Ron Paul is fighting them with one hand tied behind his back. Keep up the good work Ron Paul !

I would ask everyone to make note of one very important point Ron Paul made.

He talked about the perils of big government being in bed with big business and what a terrible thing this would be. His solution is to have very small government and let the people (including big business) have full freedom to do what they want.

Think about this solution for a minute. Do we really want government so small it can have little constraining power over big business?

No, the solution is not small government and the kind of lassiez faire full freedom that Ron Paul wants. We want government big enough to protect us from big business. If anyone can figure out a way to do that without big government then let us know.

This is why I’m voting for either Edwards or Obama. They want to put the constrants back on big business. (Constraints that — by the way — were in place circa 1929 to circa 1985. which also corresponds to the time in American history when this nation saw more progress than any other time in human history.

Empower the people, not big business. The only way to do that is limit big business. And the only entity that has any chance in hell of limiting big business, is big government.

I agree with Michael. Today’s situation that Ron Paul spoke of is proof that big government just gets in bed with big business. It does not protect us from big business. It protects big business from us…

I have a few brief points to make.

First, Ron Paul’s reaction to Russert’s–”What was that supposed to mean?” Paul, with a perfect physical reaction–”What? Fascism? The Definition of Fascism?” Classic. Instead of worrying about political points, he mounted his own attack–ask a stupid question, get an obvious answer.

Secondly, I am sick and tired of the high horsers in the truth movement. Ron Paul is as consistent as a rock. If you researched him a bit you’d see that. Just because he doesn’t openly flout every theory that you want aired doesn’t mean he is untrustworthy. Besides if you actually believe what you preach, you would realize even if Ron Paul wins the problems our country face lie far outside of the executive office. Much like Russia, our country is truly run by the intelligence and covert ops community. It is always good to have a decent executive, but even Paul himself doesn’t claim to be savior. No one owes you ANYTHING, be happy someone wants to restore order and law. The very sentiment reeks of arrogance, as if you have the right to pass judgment every time the man doesn’t come out with “we blew everything up and are installing the next Hitler.” Statements like that make me wonder if the speaker even knows what truth is or if the “truth movement” is something trendy he/she flouts to be cool and on the fringe.

Third, to Mark who is going to vote in Obama or Edwards–you are a deluded fool. Both men are tools for big government. And the fact that you would make as incredible of a statement as the government should be protecting us from big business proves that you are quite unlearned. Government is supposed to protect us from invaders and uphold our rights and that is ALL. Protection from big business lies at the local level, dare I say with the individual. Our country was founded by men with mettle. Unfortunately, most “men” today are effeminated wimps that lack the testicular fortitude to put the local McDonald’s manager in place, let alone fight for freedom. You are one of them–you need nanny big mother/brother to fight off the big bad businessmen.

My wife hurt the CFO of her company’s hand when shaking it. She is less than 120 lbs. These men are not men at all, yet we suffer. Now whose fault is that?

And Mark, don’t try to reason selling our country down the river. It is sad and insults the reader’s intelligence.

And finally, the true state of the nation lies somewhere between soft fascism and Hitler like fascism. My family ran from the Nazis and Russia and I can assure you, while some of our government’s practices reek of and have the potential to go down a very bad path quickly, it is not yet nearly as bad as you’d like to believe it is. You may have soldiers drilling to take guns and force camps–you don’t have soldiers firing upon citizens and murdering political dissidents in the plain view of the public. When we reach Communist China’s state, then you can say we are in Hitler like fascism. That said, yes, we should warn the people that are willing to listen, but as Estulin said the other day on Alex’s show–if they won’t listen move on or we sink with them.

Ron Paul may not be perfect, but he is the best choice we’ve had in a LONG time. He is not a kook like Perot or questionable like Nader. He is a real deal statesman with great views and actually has the potential to lead us to a more reasonable state of affairs. The only candidate promoting freedom and guys like Mark don’t want it. Astounding. Using fancy wording to say Americans don’t want freedom. But that is like calling us a democracy–when the majority of the weak band together to promote weakness and those of us who need freedom are forced to live in shame because there are more cowards than Americans present. It is a constitutional republic and that is what Paul promises to restore. Everyone should be voting for him, yet people are resisting. Maybe we are a fascist nation, run by fascists and populated by fascists. Because real Americans, like Jefferson and Jackson, would not have stood for all that has happened and would not promote diluted freedom.

How does the quote go? “If you are willing to give up freedom for security you will get neither, nor do you deserve either”

Greetings TO Germany!!…

Now, “Wise Man”, would you please get in touch with my German friend who lives about fifteen miles outside of Stuttgart (when he gets back from being in Australia right now on his second around the world bicycle tour, that is—I met him in Colorado, U.S.A. on his first tour), and help wake him up to how serious what’s going on is, that not everything here is, as he often puts it, a “beautiful world” (with his rose-colored glasses and/or blinders on), and how important it is to take a stand against this, truly, “hard-fascism” that the world is descending into?! Email me via my website link above (my name itself), and I’ll give you his email address so you can get in touch with him.

Brost from,

Wolf(gang)

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