Neocon Selectees: Deliver Iran to “Gates of Hell”

Kurt Nimmo
Truth News
January 12, 2008

During the Faux News “debate,” actually a tightly scripted soap opera, the Huckster said Iran would see the “gates of Hell” if it dared confront U.S. warships parked off its coastline in the Strait of Hormuz.

Mr. Law and Order, faux good ol’ boy Fred Thompson, agreed whole heartedly. “Mr Huckabee has faced grave doubts about his foreign policy experience, his greatest vulnerability, but got one of the biggest cheers of the night when asked about the incident last week when Iranian boats swarmed US navy ships in the Strait of Hormuz,” reports the Times Online.

Asked whether the American commanders on the scene were right in not attacking the Iranian boats, Mr Huckabee said he backed their decisions, before warning Iran: “Be prepared, first, to put your sights on the American vessel. And then be prepared that the next thing you see will be the gates of Hell, because that is exactly what you will see after that.”

Fred Thompson, the former Tennessee senator and Law & Order star who is banking all on victory in South Carolina to revive his campaign, said of the Iranian boat crews: “I think one more step and they would have been introduced to those virgins that they’re looking forward to seeing.” The crowd cheered.

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor, said: “I think an incident like this reminds us that we shouldn’t be lulled into some false sense of confidence about Iran.”

Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor seeking to become America’s first Mormon president, said: “I believe it was a very serious act.”

Indeed, the “crowd cheered,” as they are accustomed to celebrating lies, sort of the same way a well trained monkey dances to an organ grinder.

As Gareth Porter notes for Inter Press Service, the entire incident is little more than a boatload of hooey. “Despite the official and media portrayal of the incident in the Strait of Hormuz early Monday morning as a serious threat to U.S. ships from Iranian speedboats that nearly resulted in a ‘battle at sea’, new information over the past three days suggests that the incident did not involve such a threat and that no U.S. commander was on the verge of firing at the Iranian boats.”

In fact, it appears the neocon propaganda spinners exploited the fact “that in the Persian Gulf, the ‘bridge-to-bridge’ radio channel used to communicate between ships ‘is like a bad CB radio’ with many people using it for ‘hurling racial slurs’ and ‘threats.’” Porter writes that a “veteran U.S. naval officer who had served as a surface warfare officer aboard a U.S. Navy destroyer in the Gulf sent a message to the New York Times” indicating that his “first thought” was that the message “might not have even come from one of the Iranian craft.” Pentagon officials later sheepishly admitted to the New York Times that they could not rule out that the broadcast might have come from another source, not the Revolutionary Guard.

In other words, it is certainly not out of the realm of possibility that the entire affair was made up, as the neocons are infamous for making things up as a pretext for mass murder.

Of course, none of this matters because, thanks to the corporate media, a lot of people now believe Iran was ready to attack our precious warships. All it takes to “catapult the propaganda,” as the neocon tool Bush would have it, is to run a few hours of sensationalistic and bogus sound bites on Faux and CNN, rerun file footage of destroyers and fast boats, and of course ominous images of mullahs and fanatical Revolutionary Guards marching in formation.

Bingo, zingo — you have another Gulf of Tonkin, or something perilously close.

Thus serious catapulting as a matter of course occurred during the “debate,” with the selectees pounding their chests like primates and making not so veiled threats against a country that has done absolutely nothing to the American people, not that any actual threat is the reason the neocons have made so much noise about Iran. It has nothing to do with reality. It has everything to do with the neocon plan to deconstruct the Muslim Middle East by way of bunker buster and cruise missile.

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  1. Tek on January 12th, 2008

    Wow people are ignorant. They cheer death to their own children if television and politicians said it was “ok” and “normal” to do.

  2. Brent on January 12th, 2008

    Hmmm Nor Thompson or Huckabee ever served in the Armed forces. If they did they would never want to talk in such a manner. Because I didn’t know one person in the Navy who ever actually wanted to go to war. Anyone who knows anything in the millitary knows things can escalate very quickly and involve more then just one country and the possibitlity of dying is 50/50 So NO Americans your military doesn’t even want to go to war.

    Its all fun when your just practicing and preparing for war and playing with all the neat toys. But to actually go to war. That was only a desire of the few in the military. Probably only 1% ever actually wants to go to war.

    I would like to see Thompson or Huckabee (forget about digging a hole and spending weeks clutching a M16) just do one cruise with the US NAVY. They would puke their heads off from all the drills and days without sleep. Especially when your on alert everyone stays up for weeks with very few hours of sleep. Then if you do fall asleep on watch there is a very real threat of court martial. It is a nightmare because in the millitary there is always a good chance you could die even when not at war. Everyone and anyone who has ever served knows this.

    If they want to act so big they should be willing to risk their lives for the country they proclaim to care so much about.

    I can’t belive there are so many brain washed people in America who never served and are all to willing to send people like me to war. Maybe we should give them all a bunch of Depleted Uranium to play with. After all they don’t seam to care if our soldiers do.

    I urge everyone to research depleted uranium and learn the horors of it all. Then realize that these people like Thompson, traitor McCain and Huckabee want to use it on Iranian men women and children.

    WAKE UP AMERICA

  3. Alan Srout on January 12th, 2008

    FRED THOMPSON is the best person to lead this country. He is a true conservative and has been his entire life. All one has to do is check his record to see this.

    During my time in the Army as an Intelligence Analyst, I served under both Presidents Carter and Reagan (as my commanders in chief). Without argument, President Reagan was the best commander-in-chief a military person could ever have served under. Fred Thompson possesses the same qualities and vision as President Reagan in that he is strong on national defense and sees a dire need to secure our borders and control immigration.

    I can think of no better person to lead this country and fix the problems we have. He is the only candidate from either party who has specific and detailed plans on border security and immigration reform; revitalization of America’s armed forces; saving and protecting Social Security; and tax relief and economic growth. These are detailed on his Web site at www.fred08.com . I challenge you to find any other candidate who has laid out specific plans to fix anything.

    Fred Thompson has published his first principles, some of which are mentioned above. In addition to those, he strongly believes in individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, federalism, traditional American values, the rule of law and is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment — all concepts established during the birth of our country and documented in our Constitution.

    Again, try to find any candidate who has laid out their plans to “fix” this country. You will find they all speak in vague and abstract terms on their plans.

    For those who have heard Fred Thompson speak, you will usually hear him say that the Fred Thompson you see today is the same Fred Thompson you saw yesterday and is the same Fred Thompson you will see tomorrow. He stands by his principles and values and doesn’t shift his positions based on polls or public opinion; in other words, he doesn’t say what the voters want to hear just to get elected, but remains steadfast on his views and convictions.

    During his time in the Senate he focused on three areas: to lower taxes, strengthen national security and expose waste in the federal government. Fred Thompson has foreign policy experience, having served as member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence committees.

    As chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, he opened the investigation in 1997 on the Chinese government’s attempt to influence American policies and elections, and this investigation identified connections with the Clinton administration (documented in the committee’s report).

    As a member of the Finance Committee, he worked tirelessly to enact three major tax-cut bills. Fred Thompson remains steadfast and even though a person may not agree with all his views and he understands some may disagree with him, you can count on him to be consistent and unwavering.

    Don’t be fooled by his laid back approach and what critics call his “laziness.” As a former assistant U.S. attorney, he earned a reputation as a tough prosecutor and he possesses the toughness this country needs in order to tackle today’s and tomorrow’s issues.

    I ask that you take a hard look at what this country needs, then take a hard look at all the other candidates’ views, policies, their records and their track record on consistency. Fred Thompson possesses integrity, loyalty, commitment, energy and decisiveness, all traits of an effective leader, and will emerge as the best person to take this country boldly forward.

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  4. Norwin on January 12th, 2008

    Please look into the Gleiwitz incident, a WWII-era provocateur operation by Germany against Poland.

    Summary:

    The Gleiwitz incident was a staged attack on 31 August 1939 against the German radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz, Upper Silesia, Germany (since 1945: Gliwice, Republic of Poland) on the eve of World War II in Europe.

    This provocation was one of several actions in Operation Himmler, a Nazi Germany SS project to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which would be used to justify the subsequent invasion of Poland.

    Courtesy of wikipedia (I realize that wikipedia has been getting more regimented and is hard to work with now because of the censorship and deletions, but the article is an interesting read).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident

    I would recommend developing an article based around the Gleiwitz incident.

    Have an Osterman weekend.

  5. S. Wolf Britain on January 12th, 2008

    Please, Kurt, tell me what you object to in that previous comment, and/or that you have your WordPress system set to automatically filter out and reject, that you or the site have now deleted four times!? I took out the one thing I thought it might be, and I can’t find ANYTHING else in the post that should in any way be objectionable!! What is going on?! Please at least let me and/or others that you’re filtering know why you’re doing so?!

  6. arturo on January 13th, 2008

    The USA has been a social experiment in mass manipulation on a grand scale at least since the end of the the 1st World War.
    The success of this experiment, i.e. that the availability of an overwhelming selection of consumer goods we are convinced we need, has been mistaken for freedom and democracy, is now more or less being done all over the world.
    Misery loves company.
    Our way or we’ll bomb/invade/arrest/kidnap/torture you for supporting terrorism that we create especially for you.

  7. EJ on January 13th, 2008

    Kurt: “It has nothing to do with reality.”

    Pretty much says it all.

  8. Martin Timothy on January 13th, 2008

    This is what Huckabee and Thompson did not tell you all about… The war hawks are trying to get the US to attack Iran and be annihilated, Israel is the enemy.

    The Central Intelligence Agency, backed by bodies including the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research and the Defense Intelligence Agency, determined in August 1974 that Israel had nuclear “weapons in being,” a “small number” of which it “produced and stockpiled.”

    Israel was also suspected of providing nuclear materials, equipment or technology to Iran, South Africa and other then-friendly countries. This top secret document, consigned to the CIA’s vaults for almost 32 years, was suddenly released to the public this week, during U.S. President George W. Bush’s visit to Israel and on the eve of his trip to the Persian Gulf. Amir Oren Haaretz.com Jan 13 2008

    10 January 2007: Podhoretz advocates a pre-emptive strike on Iran. The war hawks whose machinations post 911 caused the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and who now want the US to attack Pakistan and Iran, all on behalf of Eretz Yisrael or Greater Israel. Research Israeli and Mossad infiltration of US political and defense infrastructure, add Rupert Murdoch’s proven track record of remaining blind to hard evidence against the Jews, while publishing fiction about Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden.

    Sibel Edmonds a former translator with a high level security clearance, says one well-known senior official in the US State Department was selling information to Turkish agents in Washington who were reselling it to black market buyers, including Pakistan. She claims that the FBI had knowledge. reason.com

    Countries such as Pakistan means Iran.

  9. Martin Timothy on January 13th, 2008

    More evidence of Paki and or Iranian nukes…

    August 30 2007, a B-52 Stratofortress, based at the Minot strategic air base in Minot, ND, against all rules and regulations of 40 years standing, loaded and flew off with six unrecorded and unaccounted for 150-kiloton nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. Veterans of the US Air Force and Navy, with experience in handling nuclear weapons say that there had to have been a chain or orders from above the level of the base commander, for such a flight to have occurred.

    Several as yet unexplained deaths of B-52 pilots and base personnel occurring in the weeks shortly before and after the flight. Air Force whistleblowers and Military Times newspaper were the source of the article. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, claimed the whole thing had been an accident. There has been no Congressional investigation and no FBI investigation into what happened. Dave Lindorf Counterpunch

    Recall the May 19 1993 crash of the Marine helicopter assigned to the White House, it was widely held to be a black op. Could be the chopper crash was staged, firstly to establish the credentials of the ones who exposed it, then to give Slick Willie Clinton a reason if not an excuse to have Pentagon men shot at their desks.

    Reporters were barred from the crash scene, and armed Marine guards quickly established a cordon around the site, a Marine officer was said to have seized video tape shot by a member of the local fire department.

    An independent investigation led by Frank Owens, a local archeologist who happened to be working near the crash when , believes an Electro Magnetic Pulse weapon based at the Blossom Point facility brought the aircraft down. ufomind.com “I couldn’t believe what I saw,” said Owens. “Those men were burned and there was almost no bleeding from their wounds.” Owens went on to describe the grizzly sight in the mangled wreckage. “What got me was there was fuel everywhere but no evidence of a fire. Their uniforms weren’t even burned. But the men sure were.” CJ Coley

    A group of middle ranking officers concerned about the infiltration of joint Israeli American citizens into key positions in the defense establishment, had formed a group which was itself infiltrated by the Zionazi, the Colonels Plot it was called. The Z’s had secretly gone to Clinton and told him the Colonels had decided to kill him by causing his chopper to crash, so Bill arranged to miss the flight, and to test their hypotheses he allowed the Marine flight to go ahead without warning them, then when it did crash, killing four Marines on board, he became convinced the plot was real and had the alleged plotters shot.

    The one hundred and twenty five dead at the Pentagon on 911 could have been dead already, and the 911 attack was a convenient way of explaining their deaths. Maybe the B52 whistle blowers were the remnants of the Colonels Plot.

    The six nuclear tipped cruisers would have been intended for Pakistan or Iran’s arsenals, how many shipments were sent that were not discovered, see the traitors in the Defense Department arming the very forces against whom they are now calling for all out war, Iran and Pakistan. Israel has been supplying weapons to Iran since the days of Ollie north and Iran Contra. Believe that nuclear weapons have been on Iran’s shopping list for as long as Israel has had them for sale. see this shipment as meant to be used against the US invasion fleet.

  10. Martin Timothy on January 13th, 2008

    The Ashkenazi in the persons of Wolfowitz, Podhoretz et al who have infiltrated the Washington political establishment and the Pentagon, claim that war against Iran is winnable, in the same way their Ashkenazi predecessors in Germany convinced AH the invasion of the Soviet Union would be successful.

    This is what would happen… The Iranians nuke the US battle fleets with the Israel supplied weapons looted from US arsenals sending them to the bottom, the Turks form a Moslem alliance with all regional Islamic interests including Iran… they unite with the remnants of Saddam’s forces in Iraq, the Pakistani’s get rid of Musharraf and join the alliance. The Afghans go on the offensive in that land and suddenly US forces are stranded with no hope of resupply and no way of getting out, they either surrender or are wiped out.

    The Ashkenazi offensive on the Homeland commences and the mercenary forces that are already in place on the mainland, round up who they want to and it’s off to the FEMA camps for them for processing… to be killed. Attacks are carried out on the schools in Amish County and VA Tech style massacres, and the Ashkenazi chalk up another victory… War now against Israel.

    Patriots insist that the traitors who conspired with the Jews to commit the crimes of 911, and then waged devastating war against the innocent nation of Afghanistan in response, are brought to trial without torture nor coercion, in properly conducted courts of capital jurisdiction. Evidence can be gathered and interviews conducted, thus the entire WTC workforce will still be required to explain what their movements were on the day. Larry Silverstein the lessor of the WTC site was said to have been warned over the phone to stay away, then to have telephoned his daughter and told her not to come in.

    Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga says Mossad and the CIA, not Osama Bin Laden, did 911, he admits to being a CIA asset while Prime Minister then President, and to being part of the Operation Gladio CIA inspired terror network. He says intelligence services world wide are aware of the truth.

  11. C. Davis on January 13th, 2008

    American citizens,do not be deceived. True shepherds are not warmongers. True shepherds will lovingly defend each sheep from the wolves, be it his own sheep, or some samaritan’s sheep. I’ve lived under the goat hoof of Huckabee for a number of years now and I can tell you that he is the most aquisitive governor we’ve had in recent memory. My father, who was director of admitting and patient accounts at a major eastern hospital once asked me if I knew who the biggest deadbeats by far were. I didn’t know, so he told me. Cops and preachers. I think that that revelation has forearmed me against those who would draw me into their web of pontifical enslavement. Don,t be deceived into voting for this pharisee if you care about future generations. I,m voting for the first time in my life, and I,m voting for Ron Paul. He will seek truth. Thank You.

  12. Barb Clark, R.N. on January 13th, 2008

    Dr. Paul needs our help now!

    The Real ID talking point is gone (with the DHS postponement of Real ID). Spread the word about the new National Health Intelligence Network (N.H.I.N.). This is funded from the Iran-Contra Executive Office of the President and pushed by Hillary Clinton under Senate Bill 1693. It is the national wiretap of your new “electronic medical record” (EMR-RFID). Wake up you sleeping giants…spread the word. Stop NHIN in its tracks now. Tell everyone to look into N.H.I.N. and S. 1693. Both invalidate the national medical privacy law: HIPAA.

    www.BarbClark.org

  13. paul a. on January 13th, 2008

    “Check Thompson’s record”?! He’s been a prostitute for whatever special interest would pay him! That’s what a lobbyist does! Thompson has been what decent people consider pond scum, and just like Huckle-berry he uses a learned, folksy but fake manner and accent to dupe good but woolly-headed common Americans into believing him. All these impostors are thick as thieves with the Freemasons, CFR, Trilaterals, Rothschilds…who are out to destroy the USA for the “New World Order”, (which is neither new nor order). All, except one… RON PAUL! This man’s record needs no excuses. He has been impeccably honest and always for the good of the American people. RON PAUL is the ONLY candidate to have nothing to do with secret societies or Neo-Con New World Order elites. It may be impossible to even have a clean election, but we MUST vote RON PAUL!

  14. Libertas on January 13th, 2008

    First of all Alan, Fred and this site have nothing in common so you will sway no one here, And to S. Wolf Britain this is not your site, you can agree or disagree but your comments seem to be a complete article criticizing the Webmaster. If you disagree so much with him then email him, otherwise you seem to be trolling, or just disagreeing with everything he writes and using the comment section for your own agenda, whatever that might be.

  15. Big V on January 14th, 2008

    What does US do there in a first place? Why does US send new fleet of ships there? The only answer is - because you want to provoke other people. And if you don’t succeed, then you create Gulf of Tonkin, Operation Northwood, etc. We all know what happens when a guy provokes you - he gets a hit in the face and then he eventually stops provoking. If he starts provoking again, then he spends the rest of his miserable life in a wheelchair eating through the needles. That’s how I can see the whole thing. I am not sorry about the US soldiers who do not use their head and swore on bible they will do whatever they are told by their CO’s. Most people learn from their mistakes, but it seems that in the USA there is some kind of MAJOR MALFUNCTION with majority of you guys. Get educated first, start thinking with YOUR head and DON’T allow the US Government to brainwash you. It was not my intention to offend anybody here, but do something and don’t allow being used as pawns on the chessboard.

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  17. siad on January 14th, 2008

    A few little speedboats approach a warship to have a chat on the radio and America quakes.

    The neo-con repubs and assorted cowards tremble in fear and want war as a result.

    And the media-controlled American people believe that those little speedboats could destroy a warship.

    How dumb are Americans?

  18. Gerry on January 14th, 2008

    Don’t Lump us all together Siad. Much can be said about how dumb the factions of Islam are for being manipulated since WW1. Many American are waking up to the truth and wish to take our country back from the hands of globalists.

    If you are not willing to be a part of the solution don’t be a part of the problem. C’mon brother lets be members of the human race and work for truth, justice and peace for all.

    Thats how dumb we are.

  19. just a nobody on January 14th, 2008

    this mess that america is in is because of that Nazi bush family’s “War of Terror” and turning a hefty profit for this crime inc running this country and then there are all the bought and paid for dem’s & republicans that lick bush’s boots or else;)Greed has takin over…..

  20. Barb Clark, R.N., N.P. on January 14th, 2008

    Ron Paul needs our help.

    DHS was smart to postpone implementation requirements of Real ID. This was done to remove Ron Paul’s Real ID talking point and put Americans back to sleep.

    Now we need to re-focus our energies on the National Health Information Network (NHIN); a “network of networks” designed to link all medical records (100 Million) of Americans with supercomputers at the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA).

    ALL physicians who take Medicare patients will be required to make patient records available electronically for ALL patients, even if you pay with cash. Physicians will become the new spys for the superfatherland and have a duty to put your medical history on-line for this national wiretap of your medical records.

    NHIN has been condemned over and over by health care privacy groups. We need to spread the word about the NHIN and have it condemned by Dr. Paul, M.D. at the appropriate time.

    HALT the NHIN!

    www.BarbClark.org

  21. Pooche on January 14th, 2008

    Why are a bunch of Jewish men running around saying we should attack Iran? We being the United States.
    Does israel have anything to do with this?
    Why also are they advising rudy?
    Just wondering.

  22. Barb Clark, R.N., N.P. on January 14th, 2008

    These are all good comments. But, again, the new threat is the National Health Information Network (NHIN). Are you getting this? A national database of the medical records of Americans, fully avaialble to law enforcement and the National Security Agency?

    I find it curious that so many people decry a database about your social security number at the DMV but are still asleep on having all your medical records turned over to the state. What gives?

    www.BarbClark.org

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