Wow. that’s disappointing. But we just have to keep fighting!

True Libertarianism and the roots of our nation respect equally both the right to engage in and poaractice religion and those who do not. While certainly many of the Founding Fathers and Framers were of the Christian religion, and I do not ever deny its importance in America, those who propose a strictly Christian nation paradigm are no different than what we left in England. Particularly since the Christianity that existed at the founding of america is vastly different from what is believed and practised today.

For me, the point of Libertarianism and of the Spirit of 1776 is that EVERY individual has inalienable rights and clearly while this by definition implies that these rights are endowed by a Creator, the way that that Creator is revered and respected and worshipped is not to be “established” formally by Congress. And by extension, this would also include those whose religious belief and practice differs significantly from even the majority that is in power (that is true republicanism which honors even the minority).

And it also honors and respects those who fervently practice and believe in either Christianity or some other faith - but does not allow any one religious view to exclude the rights of those who do not subscribe to similar beliefs or lack thereof.

If I may say this differently, America is not defined as a country club or by any one religious group, though there indeed may be country clubs and religious groups within it. And notwithstanding the important contribution that Christianity played in its formation. But for example, several Jews also played important roles. Are we to exclude the minority because of the majority?

I have numerous Libertarian friends [and of other political views] whose religioous beliefs vary widely. But we see each other as Americans first and then respect each other’s differences while yet remaining united. We do not look for ways to allow the differences to divide the nation. That mode of conduct would be an obvious weakness that can and would be too easily utilized by those who want the end of America.

Wolf, where’s your proof that we’re all anti-God? You have none. Your generalizations only make you look like a closet left gatekeeper.

Crazy Christian alert.
Crazy Christian alert.
Crazy Christian alert.

So now (real) libertarians are evil, Wolf?

m’kay…you are wack-o.

JESUS H. CHRIST!
IM EVIL BECAUSE I DONT WORSHIP IN YOUR CHURCH.
FUCK YOU

Proof of what Atheist Darwinian Psychology and its resulting
world views and morality bring about. Only Jesus can save a soul
or a nation.

www.hawaii.edu/powerkills

Wow - my comment was removed. It was too moderate, I fear. When I refreshed my screen it dissapeared.

Dan Said:

“Ron Paul Sucks”
“Anti Abortion violates the Fist Amendment”

The first amendment does not refer to abortion
directly, you have to go to the constitution for
that. Pre born babies living in the womb is
not a religious belief, it is a provable fact.

But for you murdering
innocent preborn babies by the hundreds of
millions worldwide in your atheistic
Darwinian constitution is fully acceptable,
as well as anything else which would be
against Biblical morality as given by God
in Jesus.

But murdering innocent human beings
isn’t acceptable in the Christian
based morality of those who wrote the
us constitution who proclaimed:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

This viewpoint is self-evident that it can only be accepted based on the religious belief that The Creator exists and he endowed all mankind with equal rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

But of course in a darwinian athiestic morality, yes no one has any endowed
rights (including pre born babies) as there is no Creator, and
anyone may do whatever they feel like doing to anyone or anything
as there is no such thing as good or evil in the Biblical sense,
and mankind is no different then worms or wild dogs morally speaking,
we are all just a random speck of existence inside a meaningless universe.

As far as the NWO is concerned, YOU Dan are the definition
of the new world order. Fear yourself and the future you
will bring upon the world if you dont repent to Christ.
Read revelation in the Bible and what Jesus warned about
to see what the New World Order will truly be like.

Kurt Nimmo is revealing himself as a powerful intellect and a masterful writer!

Freefall speed, pools of molten steel, and complete pulverization are all consistent with explosive demolation and all impossible from the gravitational collapse claimed by our government.

The growing numbers who know this and who know that our nation is being led by murdering globalists will never again be able to play politics as usual.

Wake up Mr. Anderson. We are so beyond even caring about political parties. And be thankful that only snowballs were thrown!

Mark Century

Well, I knew I would be attacked violently for what I said, but I had to take the chance. Most of you are misunderstanding what I said, and either blowing it way out of proportion into how you want to interpret it, not the correct interpretation of it, or you’re lord and master is already Satan. I doubt that, with the latter in particular, it will do any good to try and correct some misconceptions (though I hope I’m wrong, at least when it comes to those who don’t totally disagree with me), but here goes anyway:

Wo, John M., I agree WHOLEHEARTED with ALL that you said, and I do NOT “propose a strictly Christian nation paradigm”; in fact, I don’t propose a “Christian nation” AT ALL; but that’s what we’re going to get very soon, a completely false, fake, counterfeit, evil so-called “Christian nation”. As I’ve explained before in other ways and in other threads, they’re going to (supposedly!) “Christianitize” the U.S. and the one-world government, the anti-Christ is going to come on the scene, and EVERYONE is going to forced, on pain of death if they don’t, to worship the one-world government religion, primarily made of fake “Christianity”, but also made up of all of the other religions and Satanism, and it will all be Satanic in-reality.

In other words, I TOTALLY believe in “separation of church and state”, and I have ABSOLUTELY NO desire(s) WHATSOEVER to seek for or to have “our”, the U.S., government to be(come) “Christianitized”, for all of the foregoing reasons. It will be evil; and I do not want the separation of church and state done away with, and the evil one-world religion to be instituted. But it doesn’t matter what I want; it will be instituted against my, most Americans and most world-citizens will. Whether we like it or not, that is what is very quickly coming. In fact, the separation of church and state is already being done away with, and that process was begun almost from the very first day that the BushCON/NeoCON Satanists took office.

That’s right, the BushCON/NeoCONS are NOTHING BUT fake “Christians”. And that brings me to the next point: I would agree with those of you who spoke so adamantly against Christianity, since most of so-called “Christianity” is not True Christianity at all. I’ve explained that elsewhere as well, but evidently you missed it. Ninety-nine point nine-eight percent of what is called “Christianity” is NOTHING BUT fake, counterfeit, false “Christianity”, instituted by the devil, just like he’s going to institute his coup d’gras via the above-referenced “Christianitizing” of the U.S. and the one-world government. A good counterfeit is a good copy. Satan has made a good copy, or a good counterfeit, of Christianity, both in guise of Catholicism, the largest and most evil counterfeit of Christianity, and in the guise of Protestantism, most of which (99.98%) is now nothing but apostate Protestantism because it is almost completely compromised by evil, and filled with counterfeit “Christianity”.

So it is the counterfeit “Christianity”, and apostate Judaism, that has carried out all of the atrocities that some of you speak so adamantly against, NOT True Christianity, the Christianity that Jesus the Christ walked, talked, lived, and spoke, and that He ONLY, in truth, represents but has been so heavilly misrepresented. That True Christianity, though, has been almost completely adulterated, in the form of the apostacy and counterfeiting of it spoken of above. Thus, to be perfectly clear, again I agree with you, even the most adamant of you, when you speak so vehemently against COUNTERFEIT, so-called “Christianity”; but, if you toss the True Christianity out with the false, that’s where we part company and I disagree with you. In other words, whenever I speak of Christianity, I am ONLY talking about the True, and not in ANY WAY(S) WHATSOEVER defending the false, fake, counterfeit version of it, or the evil it most-definitely has committed, and very soon will put the finishing touches on committing.

Okay, now, “Darth Chaos”, Ken, et al., I did NOT say you are all “anti-God” or evil, or that all Libertarians are anti-God and evil; and I’m certainly NOT saying, as Ken accused me of, that all True Libertarians are evil! I was addressing those who ARE anti-God. Me, “a closet left gatekeeper”? That one really got me LOL, “Darth”! That’s one of the last things I would EVER be! I’m sorry you very wrongly and falsely think I’m supposedly “pompous and arrogant and ignorant”, and that I would IN ANY WAY seek to force ANYTHING on ANYONE, let alone delusions! I am TOTALLY against ALL violence; and, like God, I am for nothing but free will, so I most-certainly would NEVER try to force people to do anything WHATSOEVER! Also, another “last thing” I would EVER be is a bigot! I am COMPLETELY for NOTHING BUT Equal Rights! I suppose you could say, though I am not saying I am, because I disagree with them on some things, that I am, in a sense, or at least partly, a True Libertarian. I, like Alex Jones, etc., am a True, Paleo- Conservative and/or Constitutionalist, and that’s one of the most things that I agree with them on.

“Pattyboy”, et al., I do not attend ANY church, so I could care less if you attend one; except that I think you are MUCH BETTER OFF not attending ANY, because most church-attenders are nothing but those counterfeit, fake, false, so-called “Christians” I was talking about above! I literally recommend that everyone NOT attend ANY church(es) for that reason; and because, if they do, and keep doing so, if they aren’t already they WILL become deceived and end up believing in the counterfeit “Christianity” as well, which is also one of the last things I would wish on ANYONE! Obviously, as I made very clear above, I recommend that ALL people ONLY be a part of True Christianity, AND NOTHING ELSE, PERIOD! And you won’t find enough of that, as I alluded to, in 99.98% of the churches; in fact, ALL of the denominations and non-denominational groups, churches, organizations, etc., are now almost completely false, so I recommend staying as far away from ALL of them as you possibly can, no matter what! Oh, sure, they have a certain percentage of True Christianity mixed in, which has become a relatively, and very, small percentage now; but, if they aren’t 100% True, they are now “synagogues (or churches) of Satan”! (Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.)

Wolf Britain I applaud your response–it is truly spot-on!

As far as the 9/11 truth movement goes. It was the families of the murder victims and those who supported them while they lobbied for 2.5 years just to get the corrupt SOB’s in DC, to at least, act like they wanted to find out the truth about 9/11. Heck before the day was over they had the faces of those they say did it on all the news channels. Hell the CIA, FBI, and NSA kicked butt getting that info.

Sure we all know the Con-missions Report was a farce to placate them, but if it was not for the truth movement and dedicated survivors, the Con-missions Report would not have been.. lets say enacted, as in, act like we give a crap. The media wants us to believe that the truth movement is in some way hurting the families. They want us to think they are two different entities. Not so.

Watch “9/11 Press For Truth
a video from the families who fought to create The 9/11 Comission — and succeeded

..well kinda they are not satisfied with the outcome and you can see why in this video.
I am not much on posting links. But this opened my eyes to a lot of matters concerning the families and their plight. You’ve heard them say “you can’t beat city hall” well try taking on DC like these brave ladies did.
video link:
http://video.google.com/videop.....mp;q=press for truth&total=1002&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

or search for the title. it’s worth the watch.

PS: the code I entered to post is “airliner was” interesting coincidence no.

“Don’t go with B/S about life in a womb”

You are the NWO and if you don’t change your life you will become more and more of a tool for it to spread its power and atheistic genocidal fury upon all of mankind. Turn to Christ in His love to save your soul, or refuse Him and face Christ on judgment day in His wrath without hope when the real case will be closed for all eternity.

Good grief, Don’t you people know what mythology is? None of it is to be taken literally. Christian mythology is no more reasonable than any other and less than some. I believe in a Supreme source of some kind, but not a man in the sky with a beard. Stop trying to shove your particular mythology down the country’s
throat. Leave people to their own beliefs and follow the Constitution as the law of the land. If the Constitution is outdated, there is a process to amend it. How hard is it? You know, live and let live.

By the time I read all of these posts, I’m not even sure what the heck everyone is commenting about…I’m not going to label myself as being religeous in any way, nor do I subscribe to being Atheist(yet the latter would seem closer to my beliefs in such ‘matters’). I really can not see what that has to do with any of this nations, and the worlds, problems. Guns don’t kill people, people kill people!!! The fact remains that it is not okay, exceptions being in defense of self and/or property(at least in some cases). Anyway, I have a hard time believing anyone (with the acception of these NWO freaks) would consider themselves ‘pro’ abortion…I can certainly see how/why anyone could consider themselves to be ‘anti’ abortion. I respect most any reasoning one may give to justify the ‘anti’ abortion label they wear. I don’t like the visual that even the word, ‘abortion’, gives me…However, I’m still pro-choice. It’s not an easy issue, especially when you throw in the child support laws. The male, and rightfully so I might add, has virtually no say in whatever the female chooses…Yet, the laws state he must provide at least 18 years of support, or face whatever criminal charges and/or financial penalties etc. as prescribed by the law. Or, he is left to grieve for the loss of the potential life of his aborted child. I believe I am a man of decent morals, and I’m aware this issue tests those moral values in a clear, yet murky sorta way. What is very clear about this issue is that we’ll never unanimously agree on it. The way I’d prefer to see the legalities of financial responsibilities handled is through a binding marriage contract. That being the only way the father can be held lawfully responsible for 50% of the childs ‘essential’ support, or vice versa. The father only morally obligated in providing any additional support. The financial support of children born with no marriage, or similar, contract being the sole responsibility of the mother. This being the ‘cost’ of having that exclusive right of choosing, to abort or give birth. Financial support would be the moral responsibility of the father, or vice versa (depending on custody), not a lawful obligation. It really is a sad situation, especially for the child, but also for both the custodial and non-custodial parents. Regardless, the government has no authority to provide for the ‘welfare’ of child nor parent! Ron Paul’s government of the people, by the people, and for the people will provide for lush, voluntarily well funded, charitable organizations across this great land. The spirit of this nation will be greatly elevated once our liberties are restored. I really don’t think this will be much of an issue once we conquer the grave issue of restoring our republic!!!

Let us just concentrate our efforts and focus on recovering control of our Constitutional Republic, everything else is really just trivial…

Oh yeah, what the hell kind of person has any reason to attack Alex or any ‘truther’??? They are obviously on the wrong side of what we at this site stand for!!! I think we all agree, our only chance at gaining any justice for the crimes of 911, and countless others, lies in the success of this rEVOLution!

Melissa,if “Christian” religion is mythology,,,then why can i look in the Bible and see everything that is happening today that the Bible Prophets wrote about,the Bible is a parallel of history,anyone can look at the world and see that there has been more happen to prove the Bible than to discredit it!!!

“I’ll be damned …. Abortion is a method to protect people”

Yes genocidal propagandist if you don’t repent of your sins to Christ you will be damned, Jesus is the only hope offered to mankind. Also the moderator of this page who deleted my post of links to videos (which he allows others to post) of actual babies still in the womb (though new video technology now available) who he doesn’t want people to view because he himself is part of the NWO, the Antichrist state coming upon the world as prophesied in the Bible, book of revelation.

“Jesus..was never a real person.”
“Why the farce with Jesus Christ”
“Do some research”

You have watched your Anarchist and Marxist propaganda films too many times so much so that you actually take their claims to be fact, and God has given you over to believe those lies that you want to believe.

“For the mystery of iniquity doth already work….Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2 Thessalonians 2

Don’t go by the propaganda of Anarchists or Marxists, read the Bible yourself directly from the source.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?.....;version=9

to:Max

Yes abortion does protect people. What about a woman who could die from the pregnancy, or delivery?

You are Ignorant.

Calling me a propagandist? Listen to all that B/S you spit at me, you couldn’t even argue the First Amendment, because I am correct. Maybe we could ban the bible for pornography, and drug abuse. How bout outlawing condoms after all they prevent life. Ever mow your lawn, get a hair cut, or shave?

And that is why R.P. is a politician.

Woman have died from pregnancy’s. Some have been badly beaten by parents, psychos, and the like.
people can write anything they want. It is called freeDumb of speech.

Thank you,
your pathetic arguments are just that.

Okay, lets be clear on something. Libritarians aren’t anti God or anti religion. What they believe is equality in freedom. A Christain has just as much right to practice what he/she believes and an atheist has a right not to. Christianity, Hinduism, Muslum, etc… are all on the same level of equality, none given special rights, none having rights taken away. Freedom, for it truly to exist requires a good measure of tolerance, reqardless of ones personal belief.

The Separation of church and state, 1st ammendment

it says congress shall make no law which in respect to religon.

it says nothing more.

it means the gov. can not make any law regarding religon, like the income tax 501c3 status.

the real problem is the government is not following the law of the land, the constitution.

we need a good old fashioned revolt and hanging party.

it’s time has come.

right so the antichrist was the one making all the hieroglyphics in egypt thousands of years before jesus, talking about the story of ra which was startlingly similar to jesus the death rebirth etc.. wow glad we have that cleared up… when are you going to tell me fossils are a challenge to your faith because we all rode dinosaurs…well at least you made yourself really thick blinders.

“congress shall make no law which in respect to religon.”

This was directly related to and in the context of preserving
the American individual from by being ruled by the Roman Catholic church of
Europe, the church which the vast majority of European
Christians were trying to escape to the USA from.

In Europe the problem
was not that universal crimes like murder were capital
offenses which brought prison or death, but ALSO the Roman
Catholic Church stated that certain theological matters
such as the nature of the Trinity, Angels, or Blasphemy
were matters to imprison and or execute over. THIS
was the issue and this is the main reason most people
fled as quickly as the New World was discovered, because
they wanted to escape the theological dictates of
Roman Catholic enforced papal or priest decrees.
Independent European Christians knew fully well that
the Roman Catholic system in Europe was not Biblical
but for hundreds of years they could do little as
they had no power to escape.

The “congress shall make no law” is directly in context
with the experiences related to European Catholicism and
its theological based crimes. Protestants on average knew
that the Bible did not support theological crimes
worthy of imprisonment or death, so these types of
articles were specifically made clear to allow people to be
as heretical in their beliefs as they wished and
no state church would be able to take control (as in European
Catholicism) and deem a purely theological heretic a criminal guilty of imprisonment.

This is where the concept of free speech comes from, free to be
a heretic in other words without threat of the European
Catholic church able to come and get you. It is written
in a protestant context though, not an atheist one like
Marxists, or similar types try to claim which is absolutely
baseless. You can read many many many letters and articles
from protestant leaders in the early days of the USA talking about
the Roman Catholic threats in their time and how they
didn’t want the USA to become like Papal Europe.

or death.

Ron Paul promotes freedom. That’s freedom to believe what you want. We HAVE to pull this thing together a lot more than this.

All people,

I am a born-again Bible believing Christian! I like my free speech and being able to witness the power of God and Christ to other people in this country. I am not going to call names or take sides I think I am above this. However, if freedom is truly what we are after, then why are we on this site calling names like little children? Saving a country from tyranny is not about being in league with someone who is different from you. It is about keeping our liberty so we can have the freedom to practice or not practice a religion as how we see fit! Everyone should have free speech and expression, but not to the unlimited amount of vulgarity and violence that people often resort to, this should be left to the states to decide and no one person should ever be able to touch or assault another person because they disagree with their message! Also, let me say this: “the strength of sin is the law” (1 Cor. 15:56). Anytime any religion tries to force some kind of system of theocracy or theological belief system on society it will only result in a rebellion and hatred! Civil laws come from the Bible, any good historian knows this, but we cannot have a “Christian theocracy” as the supporter’s of G.W. Bush thought they would reign in a “political kingdom.” Mike Huckabee’s supporter’s have this same kind of flawed thinking. Is not this the same thing the Pharisees wanted? When Christ told them His kingdom was not of this world, it offended these politico-religious fanatics to the core. They murdered Him for it, but only by what God allowed them to do. They wanted Christ to overthrow the Roman Government. During the time Christ walked this earth, the Roman Government allowed a measurable amount of free speech and religious freedom! Only when it became a great empire did it degenerate into tyranny and began oppressing Christians, Jews, and all who refused to worship Caesar! The Romans also rolled out an oppressive tax system that eventually weeded out the middle class and their own government through financial bankruptcy. In time, they dried up and the people in their own system turned against them and helped their enemies. I ask you, is this what we want? Do we want a “government religious system?” I do not, because I like to worship in my home with other Christians by the way. Let me tell you, I have already witnessed persecution by those who believe I should be in a church building by slandering me. However, I will support their right to do this, but do not try to force me into your building you call church! Take Care all.

IC,

Joe Kierpaul

Guttenberg, IA

“Joe Liberty”, you make some very good points; but, even though temporarily with those who we can join to save this republic is an apparently laudable idea, those of us who are aware of parts of God’s Word(s), like 2 Corinthians, Chapter 6, cannot in good conscience “fellowship” in any way(s) with just anyone. For instance, if some denier of God, a Satanist, counterfeit “Christian”, and/or some other false-god worshiper(s) is/are going to take up arms and physically, violently attack the government, I cannot and will not join them; and either could you if you are Truly following God in the name of Jesus the Christ.

And, you say you will not take sides; but, if you’re a True Christian YOU HAVE TO take God’s and Jesus the Christ’s side; so you saying that is patently ridiculous and shows, among other things you said, that you are NOT a True Christian, but an “evangelical”, counterfeit one like most professed “Christians”, deceived into believing in the counterfeit “Christianity” that is most prevalent.

Max, you make some excellent points!

Rob, Max is right that you are an extremely deluded soul! The Catholic Church is NOT 2,000 years old! It was founded initially by the Roman Emperor Constantine in 457 A.D.! It did NOT exist at the time of Jesus or the Apostles! Peter was NOT the first bishop OR Pope, and the verses you and Catholics use to supposedly prove that, do not say what you claim they say! Where is the word Catholic found in the New Testament or anywhere in the Bible, other than Catholic apocrypha and/or catechisms?! It ISN’T found in the Bible!! When Jesus said, “You are Peter, and upon this rock I build my church”, he was referring to Apostolic Church and True Christianity, of which Catholicism is the greatest counterfeit, and He was NOT making Peter a Pope, another word that is found no where in the entire Bible!! Neither was Jesus exalting Peter above anyone else, but was simply saying that Peter AND THE OTHER APOSTLES will be the initial basis for True Christianity, nothing else!!

Also, Peter NEVER went to Rome!! The Apostle Paul did!! That Peter was supposedly buried in “St. Peter’s” in Rome is one of the many huge lies that Roman Catholicism has been foisting on the entire world for a good deal of the past 1251 years!! Peter’s bone box was found in the late 1950s buried on the Mount of Olives IN JERUSALEM!! Of course, the Catholic Church then got a hold of it and allegedly put in it “Peter’s Tomb” in Rome in order to save face, and so they CAN now, finally, honestly say that Peter is buried there, BUT HE WASN’T UNTIL THEN!!

Anyone with half a brain should notice that you quote human, finite, errant men and extremely evil Popes, and blasphemously put them on the same level as God, more than you do the Word(s) of God, which proves you false right there!! In fact, you don’t quote God’s Word(s) at all, but only refer to verses therein, all of which, if one reads them, are out of context and do not prove ANYTHING of what you claim they prove, without a great deal of reading things into them THAT ARE NOT THERE!! In other words, you lift the words of man over God’s Word as the so-called authority of God, glorifying man’s words and ways, or “the commandments of men”, above God’s, all of which God’s Word(s) very clearly commands us completely against:

“It is written, thus says the Lord [God in Jesus the Christ, the Word(s) of God Himself]….” “…You hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, ‘These people draw close to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips; but their heart is far from Me’. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men…”! [Matthew 15:7-9 (Mark 7:7).]

As far as “salvation by grace (and/or faith) alone” is concerned, it is true that God’s Word(s) say(s), among other things on the subject, that “faith without works is dead” (James 2:20 and 2:26), but it is talking about works of God through humankind that are performed by grace alone. In other words, they are works that can ONLY be performed by human beings AFTER they have been Truly, Fully and Completely transformed by God and infilled with His Holy Spirit and Character; so they are works that are NOT performed “in the flesh” alone, as the Works of the Catholic Church and Catholics, including all of the Popes and priests, as well as by all apostate and/or counterfeit Protestants, are performed. It is also true that most Protestants are NOTHING BUT counterfeit “Christians”, just as all Catholics are [not that they cannot be saved if they (are) Truly, Fully and Completely repent, transformed and filled with the character of Jesus the Christ], but that does NOT make all of Protestantism false.

The Protestant reformers during the Protestant Reformation believed in a lot of false doctrines, though far less than Roman Catholics do, but they were used and blessed of God to bring the much greater possibility of coming to know the whole, unvarnished Truth of God’s Word(s) without the twisting and misrepresenting of them that the Catholic Church was and still is extremely guilty of, as well as the much greater possibility of people coming to know and experience the True Grace of the Lord Jesus the Christ which they could not come to know through the extremely evil intercessions of extremely evil men and deceivers, combining paganism with some Christianity, who required them to try to impossibly jump through all kinds of legalistic hoops in order to supposedly obtain “salvation”, a completely false “salvation” that, if they continued to follow it, would ONLY lead to their destruction, not approval of God. Sadly, the Protestant Reformers developed some “hoops” of their own that they claimed were of God too, but no where near as severally as the Roman Catholic Church did, and does to this day.

The Protestant Reformation, for the first time since Apostolic times, brought the Light of God’s Word(s) directly to the people, showing them that they could, and could ONLY, obtain salvation through faith in the Grace of God through the Lord Jesus the Christ, and that they must NOT attempt to do so through human intercession(s), but only by coming DIRECTLY to God. The Catholic Church, to this day, teaches that humankind MUST supposedly come to “God” through priests and Popes, when the Holy Word(s) of God teach(es) the exact opposite, and makes it so relatively easy to come to God, at least compared to the extremely, both at the same time too difficult and much too easy way of supposedly coming to “God” through the Catholic Church. Too difficult by way of all of the many paganistic rituals they must perform, which do more to separate them further from God than to bring them closer to Him, and too easy by way of supposedly being able to simply be forgiven by some man and having to do a few “penances”, without a True Repentance that can ONLY be made DIRECTLY to God, NOT THROUGH MAN.

In other words, NONE OF US can be saved through works, however holy we might falsely think them to be, in our own strength or human effort alone. As I said above, we must be COMPLETELY TRANSFORMED BY GOD AND FILLED WITH HIS CHARACTER; for then, AND ONLY THEN, will we be able to Truly perform God’s Works IN HIS STRENGTH ALONE, ALIGNED WITH HUMAN EFFORT. But humankind CANNOT Truly perform God’s Works in, again, their human effort alone without that complete character transformation to that of God’s Holy Character. And, if people are NOT Truly, Fully and Completely transformed by God and infilled with His Holy Character, they can ONLY carry out works, that are NOT Truly His works AT ALL, in their own strength and human effort alone. All of this that I just said about the subject is what is meant by salvation by faith (and/or grace) alone. Anything more or less than that is part of a false system of man’s doctrines like those of the supreme evil counterfeit of Christianity, the Roman Catholic Church and it’s belief system, Satan’s ultimate counterfeit, or copy, of Christianity, combined with pagan sun worship and the worship of idols and false gods, all of which violates the Commandments of God.

God’s Word(s) make exceedingly clear over and over again, including in particular the Gospel Book and Epistles of John, and in John’s Book of Revelation, that NO ONE who does not keep ALL of the Commandments of God completely holy, is going to be saved and get into heaven. Those many verses, and many verses on other Biblical topics, are inconvenient to all Catholics, and to most Protestants, because they want religion on human terms rather than God’s True Terms as spelled out in His Word(s); and they want a relatively “easy” way into heaven, a way that they believe they can take for granted; but, as the Apostle Paul and others made abundantly clear, we cannot take salvation for granted AT ALL, and MUST have the level of humility that, even after we are filled with the Holy Spirit and Character of God, we will still, as Paul did, feel so “wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked” (Revelation 3:17), and that “all our (own) righteousness is as filthy rags” (Isaiah 64:6), as well as being humble and obedient like obedient little children. BUT NOT TO HUMANKIND are we to EVER give that obedience AT ALL; and Catholics DO, going through finite, errant, evil men to supposedly obtain salvation, WHICH CANNOT BE FOUND WITH THEM. But at least Protestants, for all of their many faults, know to go directly to God, where True salvation can ONLY be found.

This nation is in a struggle for its very survival. I am going to put forth a thought to you. If you are a Christian this is very relevent.
The bible says that the powers that be are ordained of God.
It also also says that us Christians are to obey the laws of the land.

The God ordained law of the land in America is the United States Constitution as ratified by the several states.
A rogue power has usurped this constitution and used the greatness of this nation to promote onw world global governance,(AKA New World Order) as discribed by Herbert Walker Bush SR in 1991.
Ron Paul stands for constitutional law. In other words, he stands for a return to God ordaimned law in this land. He is an honest man.
You must lend him your support for no other reason that it is the right thing to do in the sight of God. If you are so blind that you do not have a viceral hatred for one world government and the dismantling of your own country by globalists, then i question your spirituality as a true Christian. This is the dividing line at this particular point in history. You are either on their side or you are on God’s side. And believe you me, God is taking names. BFS

All the rantings about turning to Jesus won’t do a damn thing to stop the NWO. If you really want to do something, then buy a spindle of Freedom to Facism and start handing them out.

If you really want to understand Jesus, I suggest you read ALL the books written about him. Yes, I am suggesting that you go and read the books that Constantine tried to obliterate from the face of the Earth, that have now surfaced. Understand that Constantine needed a way to unify the Roman Empire and he used Christianity to do that. That required that any books that were about the “inner” knowing of Christ, the mystical disciplines, be tossed out.

I know, I know, there was divine intervention. That’s how we got the modern bible. Sure. Constantine was not swayed in anyway by his politcal ambitions.